Browser War and Innovation

9/7/2008 12:13:29 PM

This eWeek article has where they quote "Douglas Crockford, a JavaScript architect at Yahoo and the man behind JSON, the JavaScript Object Notation" as saying he wants a new browser war since it spurs innovation and drives the web forward.  I agree with that statement wholeheartedly.  Crockford is quoted as also saying that all the bad things that happened in the last browser war (proprietary extensions, poor standard support, etc.) will not be repeated because of market pressure and standards.  First, I think the standards argument will never fly.  Almost by definition, standards rapid innovation do not mix.  Neither Microsoft of Google will wait around for the standards process to make feature X a standard before implementing and heavily promoting it.  I don't see "market pressure" is going to work either.  The market has complained about IE 6/7 standards issues for ages but the market continued to make exceptions for them.  If something is popular, content producers will support it.  When Chrome starts to capture more market share content producers will leverage proprietary features to give visitors a better experience.  Its a simple game - if you don't support feature X, no matter how proprietary it is, but your competitor does and it takes away visitors from your site because feature X gives people a better experience, you either support feature X or you lose.  It won't take long for someone significant to break ranks (either on their own or as a result from financial incentives from the various vendors) and the game is afoot.

I think a new browser would be fun to watch and be involved in - but be careful what you wish for Mr. Crockford. ;-)

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9/7/2008 5:30:13 AM

Chris Sutton

A year ago I had IE7 and FF2 on my machine for testing and now I have added Safari 3, Opera 9.5 and Chome .2.

It definitely does feel like things are heating up with 5 decent browsers installed on my machine now.

Chris

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9/7/2008 7:42:04 PM

Douglas Crockford

I did not say "poor standard support". I argued that the standards process which produced the current poor standards is broken. I want the browser makers and laboratories and startups to get inventive. Only after good ideas have proven themselves should they be made into standards. That would be a significant change from current practice. I also argued that the web community be prepared to reject any changes that are destructive to their interests in order to discourage the bug flooding that characterized the first browser war.

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9/8/2008 1:59:43 AM

JAB

Sorry for the misrepresentation. I didn't phrase it all that well. Agree that the "innovation to standard" would be the way to go, the problem is, as you well know, the world of standard setting is overly political. I can remember the fighting that went on during the first go round between Netscape and Microsoft as "standards" where being created. I just don't have a lot of faith in "web community be prepared to reject any changes that are destructive to their interests". The purists will do that, but the $$$ driven sites will break ranks pretty quickly IMHO if it means an easier customer retention/monetization opportunity.

Thanks for contributing!

JAB

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